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Wet Fly Swing Fly Fishing Podcast

Podcast Wet Fly Swing Fly Fishing Podcast
Dave Stewart
Dave from the Wet Fly Swing Fly Fishing Blog interviews the biggest names in fly fishing and fly tying today. He digs out all of the best fly fishing tips and ...

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  • 707 | The So Fly Fishing Podcast with Mitch Duesling and Aldo Pescatore-Tardioli - Ontario, Belize, Northern Pike
    Show Notes:  https://wetflyswing.com/707  Presented by: Pescador on the Fly, FishHound Expeditions, Four Wheel Campers Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors  In this episode, we are thrilled to have Mitch and Aldo, the dynamic duo behind the renowned So Fly Fishing podcast, one of Canada's top fly fishing shows. Join us as Mitch and Aldo take us on a journey through Southern Ontario's stunning waters and beyond. They'll share captivating stories from their podcast, offering insights into their favorite trips and the incredible guests they've hosted. Whether you're planning your next big adventure or simply dreaming of the perfect fly fishing escape, Mitch and Aldo are here to provide inspiration and expert advice. Episode Chapters with Mitch Duesling and Aldo Pescatore-Tardioli on the So Fly Fishing Podcast 1:28 - I had the pleasure to guest on their podcast in April last year about starting and sustaining a fly fishing podcast. 3:44 - We started our chat by getting into their creative journey in the podcasting space. Mitch reflects on the origins of their project, which began as an idea in 2015 and launched its first episode in January 2016. Mitch notes the rise of the creator culture, observing that even young family members aspire to be creators now. Aldo recalls joining the podcast as a guest on an episode and later becoming a co-host. The team experienced a shift in their production schedule during the Covid lockdown, initially increasing their output to one episode per week due to having more free time. Eventually, they settled into a rhythm of releasing two episodes per month, which they find to be a balanced and sustainable approach. 6:52 - We talk about fishing in Ontario. Mitch and Aldo discuss how Ontario offers a wide range of fishing opportunities due to its large size and diverse ecosystems, from Southern Ontario to the far north. They note that while they have traveled globally, Ontario remains a prime fishing destination for them. Aldo mentions the multi-species fishing opportunities, including smallmouth bass, pike, and musky, particularly in Ottawa. He also remarks on the less populated areas of the province, which offer remote fishing experiences. 9:51 - Aldo shares that time when a listener's invitation led them to Texas for redfishing, highlighting the exciting and memorable experiences that result from this kind of trips. Both Mitch and Aldo emphasize the importance of being open to opportunities and seizing them when they arise. 13:29 - Mitch discusses the shift from audio-only content to video podcasts on YouTube. He notes that more people are engaging with their content on YouTube, likely due to the visual component that video offers. Despite this shift, creating video content presents challenges, such as ensuring guests have the necessary technology to participate visually. 16:00 - We discuss the excitement of having well-known guests on the show, particularly those outside the fly fishing community. They recount a near-success in booking actor Liam Neeson, who declined their invitation but showed interest initially. They dream of featuring other famous personalities, focusing solely on their fishing experiences rather than their celebrity status. 18:39 - I mention our episodes with Yvon Chouinard and Henry Winkler. 19:13 - The hosts discuss their experiences with receiving negative comments or "hate mail" after podcast episodes. Mitch and Aldo acknowledge that early on, they received criticism for swearing too much, which they have since reduced. 21:19 - Aldo and Mitch reveal how they plan and produce their episodes. They rely on a network of sponsors, fly shops, guides, and local connections to secure guests, aiming to maintain a balance between international content and local stories from Ontario. 24:25 - We ask them about their plans for this year. One of the highlights is a trip to Belize in February, where they'll be exploring Ambergris Caye and San Pedro with a mix of DIY adventures and guided tours. Another major milestone for the team is the upcoming 200th episode of their podcast, which they are thrilled about. 26:28 - They share about an annual event called the Southern Ontario Trout Opener Social in April. It serves as a fundraiser aiming to support local river conservation efforts. The event features a cocktail party setup with around 150 attendees, including tying competitions where participants can win a day with a guide. The event has been running for four years and was designed to attract both fishing enthusiasts and non-fishers. 30:25 - Our conversation discusses potential guests and episodes for this year. Aldo expresses a strong interest in having Andy Mill on the show. He admires Andy's work and has been an avid listener of the Mill House podcast, which captures the allure of saltwater fishing. 35:33 - We dig into Aldo's first time travelling to Belize. Mitch also shares his favorite fishing trip so far which was in a river in Northern Ontario because of the available fish species and wild life there. 45:14 - Aldo raises a concern about the potential apprehension of having earlier episodes of their podcast accessible to listeners, particularly if they might not reflect the current quality or style. 46:34 - They share their favorite podcasts. Mitch highlights "Design Matters" with Debbie Millman as his favorite podcast. He praised Debbie's interviewing style, noting her ability to keep conversations engaging and forward-moving. Aldo recommends "Pivot" with Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway. He explains that the podcast explores the intersection of business, technology, and everyday life. Aldo appreciates the hosts' approach, as they avoid talking down to listeners. 49:22 - Mitch shares the inspiration behind starting a podcast, highlighting his love for radio and conversation. His interest sparked from listening to "The Ricky Gervais Show," which he considers one of the best podcasts due to its humor and engaging content. 51:40 - We ask for the story about the title of their podcast, So Fly. 52:48 - We share a story about our family's recent trip to Anchorage, Alaska with the team of Fishhound Expeditions. We travelled in our amazing pop up camper from Four Wheel Campers. 56:17 - We ask some random questions like their go-to YouTube channel and podcast platform. Show Notes:  https://wetflyswing.com/707  
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  • 706 | South Carolina Redfish with Capt. Johnny Mainero - Striped Bass, Speckled Trout, Flounder
    #706 Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/706 Presented By: Grand Teton Fly Fishing, Skwala, Yellowstone Teton Territory, Four Wheel Campers Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors If you only had one shot to hook that trophy fish while on the water, could you make it? You had one chance to make that perfect cast, that the fish sees it and hooks up. Today we're heading to South Carolina to find out how you can put it together for Redfish so you can make that shot next time you are on the water. Johnny Mainero from Blackwater Revival Guide Service is gonna take us on a trip to understand redfish, the history, and the experience. You're gonna find out when you should be planning your next trip, what you should be thinking about, and what to avoid. You're gonna find out how to find the fish and position yourself for success and his take on the best rod to use for Redfish. And a little hint here... this is not a super-fast action rod. Plus, you're gonna find out why he's adding sharks to his program potentially in the coming years. Stay tuned! Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/706
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  • Traveled #23 | Fly Fishing World Championships with Glade Gunther: Inside the Idaho Fly Fishing Event
    Show Notes:  https://wetflyswing.com/705B In this episode, host Dave talks with Glade Gunther, a member of Team USA and the person in charge of organizing a major event in Fly Fishing, to share what’s planned and how people can join in the fun. Dave and Glade will tell you all about the famous rivers in Idaho, how the event works, and even give some helpful fishing tips. Whether you want to watch the competition, volunteer, or just become a better fisher, this episode has everything you need to know! 1:09 - From casting simple spinners as a child to learning the art of fly fishing as a teenager, Glade Gunther's journey reflects the timeless appeal of fishing as both a personal pastime and a shared experience. 5:15 - Glade shares how today Fly Fishing Team USA continues to grow, selecting top anglers every two years based on a points system. Glade explains how recent changes have made it easier for people to participate, and how the team is now made up of the best 15 anglers in the country. 7:28 - After COVID paused competitions, Fly Fishing Team USA revamped its selection process by creating a regional system, dividing the U.S. into four sections. This made it easier for anglers to compete locally without extensive travel. 15:12 -Glade then proceed in sharing how Fly Fishing Team USA’s selection process allows anglers to compete in up to three regional events, counting their best two scores to account for luck and variability in conditions. Rankings from regional events are combined with points from interregional competitions to determine the top anglers. 30:52 - Glade emphasizes how the U.S. aims to minimize disruption and avoid conflicts with local anglers. With careful planning and support from state and federal agencies, the event will promote conservation, safe fishing practices, and a fun, competitive environment for participants. 36:33 - Glade describes their success in securing bids for organizing a fly fishing event and the subsequent planning efforts involved. They mention having a cabin in Island Park, Idaho, which lies within the renowned "golden triangle" of fly fishing, spanning Montana, Wyoming, and Idaho. 43:03 - The youth fly fishing team recently achieved remarkable success at the World Championships in the Czech Republic, sweeping the podium with 1st, 2nd, and 3rd place finishes and securing the team gold medal. Show Notes:  https://wetflyswing.com/705B
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  • 705 | Fly Fishing the Land of the Giants with Jeff Lattig of Living Water Guide
    #705 Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/705 Presented By:  Pescador on the Fly, Heated Core, Visit Helena, MT Are you ready to fish one of the best tailwaters out west? Today, we’re heading to the Land of the Giants on the Missouri River with Jeff Lattig from Living Water Guide.  Jeff shares tips on fishing rivers and reservoirs, even in winter. We’re talking about the must-have fly color for winter, how to avoid a sloppy mend, and why the short leash nymphing method might just change the way you fish. Show Notes with Jeff Lattig on Fly Fishing the Land of the Giants.  03:06 - Winter on the Missouri River is slightly different, but it’s still a great time to catch some big fish. The day usually starts later, at around 9:30 or 10 AM, just to let the sun warm things up a bit. Jeff talks about fishing deep, slow winter water and using flies like pink scuds and worms. If the wind is calm, you might even get some great midge fishing with dry flies. Jeff says pink flies, like pill poppers and lightning bugs, are popular in winter.  Winter Fishing vs Summer Fishing in the Missouri  Winter fishing on the Missouri River can be easier than fishing in the summer. Fish are a bit slower and less picky, so it’s easier to catch them. But they’re also not as hungry, so it’s all about finding the right depth and being patient. Jeff said the best part about winter fishing is fewer anglers. Dry Fly Fishing on the Missouri 09:16 - Dry fly fishing on the Missouri can be trickier than on rivers like the Clark Fork or Blackfoot. The flies are smaller, so even a small mistake, like a sloppy mend, can cause your fly to sink. Plus, the weeds in the water add an extra challenge. Jeff said downstream hook sets can be challenging for beginners. You must wait for the fish to take the fly before setting the hook. When to Set the Hook and How to Avoid Sloppy Mends? Jeff says the key is patience. You want to wait until the fish completely takes the fly. Here’s what Jeff recommends to avoid sloppy mends: Avoid sloppy mends by using a reach cast to place your fly where you want it. Stack your line out to feed it properly and get that perfect drift. Short leaders (9 to 12 feet) are usually enough—no need for crazy long leaders! Leader Size and Technique for Dry Fly Fishing on the Missouri The leader size for dry fly fishing in Missouri depends on the fly you’re using. Here’s the breakdown: For smaller flies (like size 18), choose a 4x to 5x leader. For larger flies (like chubby Chernobyls or grasshoppers), use 2x or 3x to prevent twisting and get a good turnover. The technique stays the same even in the winter. Jeff says that if there aren’t many fish rising, they fish blind.  https://youtu.be/9U1jUdOjsLA?si=TGkZjLa7cE5f2_8Q Hopper Season on the Missouri 13:03 - Hopper season runs from late July through September. During this time, Jeff targets shallow waters (less than 2 feet deep) with grasshoppers. Here's what you should look for: Faster, choppy water with good oxygen levels Current breaks and structure, especially wood (as Jeff says, "wood is good") Fish with a single hopper or a hopper dropper Missouri is known for its epic grasshopper fishing, but other hatches like PMDs, caddis, tricks, and pseudocloeons. What is Short Leash Nymphing?  17:34 - Short leash nymphing is a technique where you target super shallow water, where larger fish tend to feed. The method involves using soft landing indicators placed a few feet above the flies, typically two to three feet.  Anglers cast to specific spots like gravel bars or drops where fish feed. The technique requires precision and frequent casting. Check out this article on Short Leash Nymphing on the Missouri River. How Do You Find Fish in Shallow Water? To find fish in shallow water, look for areas where the water gets shallow, like gravel bars, shorelines, or center river flats. These are the spots you want to target when nymphing.  Make sure your flies, indicators, and weight are set for that depth. Short leash nymphing makes it easy because you can visually spot those shallow areas and focus your efforts there. Dealing with Weeds When Nymphing Weeds can be a big issue when nymphing, especially in the summer months in Missouri. Sometimes, you might need to switch to unweighted flies to float over weed beds, especially in faster or deeper water. Jeff says that areas near the dam have less vegetation due to cooler water, but warmer temperatures bring more weeds further downriver. https://youtu.be/wxbXwDgqhAU?si=BxebQWXWKz3XArRG Fly Fishing the Land of the Giants  The "Land of Giants" is a stretch of river below Hauser Dam, about 3 to 4 miles long and known for its huge fish. You can catch fish around 18 to 22 inches, with some reaching 24 inches or more.  This section is regulated with permits. Only 50 guides can operate there for commercial use. Jeff says they use jet boats to fish the area. 26:45 - You don’t need a drift boat to fish the Missouri, but it helps. Wade fishing can be great, especially when flows are low.  Below Hauser Dam is the sweet spot for guided trips. If you’re into walleye or spin fishing, places like Hauser or Canyon Ferry Reservoirs are options, too, but most fly fishing happens below Hauser. Best Time to Fish June and July are the best months for fishing. The main hatches are pale morning duns and caddis. As summer turns into fall, expect Trico and pseudocloeons, and then in late October, the Blue-wing olives show up. Even in winter, there’s still fishing with midges and chironomids.   Tips to Catch More Fish in the Land of Giants 40:33 - Jeff Lattig shares two key tips for fishing the Land of Giants:  Let Your Fly Hunt: When fishing with an indicator, let your flies hunt instead of constantly casting. Know Your Depth: Make sure your flies are at the right depth. If you're fishing 10 feet of water, keep your flies close to the bottom. Top Winter Flies for the Land of the Giants  You don’t need to match the hatch exactly—it's more about the drift and timing. Here are some top choices for flies that work great in winter: Pill Popper  Pink Lightning Bug Radiation Baetis Thin Mint Parachute Adams Griffith’s Gnat   Show Notes:  https://wetflyswing.com/705  
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  • 704 | The Perfect Packable Fly Rod with Jeff Ditsworth - Pescador on the Fly, El Rey, Versa Pack
    #704 Show Notes:  https://wetflyswing.com/704  Presented by: Pescador on the Fly Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/pescador  In this episode, we sit down with Jeff Ditsworth, owner of Pescador on the Fly, to talk about the perfect packable fly rod: their six-piece travel rod. Jeff, an expert in fly fishing travel, shares insights into his innovative line of rods, including the El Jefe and El Rey, which are designed to make traveling with your fishing gear easier and more efficient. We delve into the common misconceptions about multi-piece rods and explore the exceptional quality and convenience they offer. Plus, Jeff reveals the inspiration behind the creation of the Trout Hero bag for Trout Unlimited and shares his daily routine that keeps him at the top of his game. Join us as we uncover how this game-changing equipment could transform your fly fishing trips and simplify your travels. Episode Chapters with Jeff Ditsworth on The Perfect Packable Fly Rod 1:55 - Jeff recalls his first introduction to fly fishing. He used to go camping with his father and grandfather, both of whom owned very old fly rods. His first fishing experiences were on lakes and ponds, targeting species like bluegills and bass. 3:44 - He shares his journey of creating the brand Pescador on the Fly. While traveling for work, he found it cumbersome to carry traditional four-section rods and sought a better travel rod. He spent two years in research and development, eventually launching the brand with the El Cinco, a seven-section rod. 9:54 - We dig into their six-section El Rey rod. Jeff mentions that the rod was recently featured in Fly Fisherman magazine's 2025 gear guide, highlighting its recognition in the industry. 12:35 - We ask him for tips on going on a travel for fishing trips. Jeff emphasizes the importance of traveling with more than one rod as a backup. He mentions the unpredictability of trips, such as rods breaking due to accidents, and suggests bringing a lightweight, compact rod like the six-section rod that fits easily into a backpack. Jeff also suggests varying the types of rods based on the fishing environment, such as bringing different weights for different water sizes and fish types. 14:48 - We get into their El Jefe line that includes rods from zero to 10-weight, available in both four and six-piece configurations. He mentions the affordability of their fishing combos making them accessible to newcomers to fly fishing. 18:42 - Jeff criticizes the industry's tendency to overcomplicate fly fishing with too many options, which can intimidate newcomers. He suggests that simplifying the approach to gear is often sufficient for most anglers. 23:22 - Jeff discusses the origins of the names for the brand and its product lines. He explains that "Pescador" means fisherman, a name inspired by his love for fishing in Mexico and speaking Spanish. "El Jefe" means the boss, and "El Ray" means the king. Jeff also addresses the Econ 101 series, which emerged from his desire to offer durable, non-disposable starter fly fishing kits. 25:49 - We touch a bit on this fishing trip to Ascension. On more recent trips, Jeff has been using their El Jefe rods and reels. He mentions that the El Jefe reels are saltwater capable with fully sealed drags, making them versatile for both freshwater and saltwater fishing. 27:11 - Jeff shares some of the new things coming up for Pescador on the Fly. 33:04 - We ask Jeff for his essential gears when going to fishing trips. Besides the six-section rod, he highlights the need for packing flies suited for the location, fly boxes, leaders, tippets, and small accessories like weights and fly line dressing. He also mentions their Versa Pack, a small, efficient bag that caters to minimalist needs. This pack is ideal for carrying essential items such as a couple of fly boxes, ensuring that the angler is not burdened with unnecessary gear. 35:27 - Jeff highlights the importance of considering weather and location when deciding to use waders or opt for wet wading. He also shares his experience of packing efficiently, often including a suit, waders, boots, and fly fishing gear in his carry-on for both meetings and fishing. 40:18 - Jeff shares a heartfelt tribute to his father that was published in Colorado Trout Unlimited magazine. He also highlights their commitment to exceptional customer service, noting they quickly resolve issues like broken fishing rods, often providing replacements within two days, a stark contrast to industry norms. 42:48 - Jeff discusses his commitment to supporting Trout Unlimited, a prominent organization dedicated to protecting waterways and improving fishing access. One of his significant contributions to TU is the creation of the "trout hero bag." This reusable mesh bag is designed for anglers to collect trash every time they're near water bodies, promoting consistent environmental stewardship beyond occasional cleanup events. 46:09 - We ask Jeff about some misconceptions surrounding six-piece fishing rods. Jeff explains that earlier versions of multi-section rods, like the original six or seven-section rods, were not as high-performing as current models. 48:44 - Jeff shares his regimented morning routine which involves meditation with an app called Calm. Show Notes:  https://wetflyswing.com/704 
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