The Attention Economy: Why not all reach is equal with Karen Nelson Field
Dr Karen Nelson Field is a multiple returning guest to the podcast, talking about her book "The Attention Economy: A Category Blueprint" which takes an in-depth look into the dynamic world of marketing and advertising, unveiling the pivotal role that human attention measurement plays in the present and future landscape. In this episode we discuss the history of attention, how the platforms are manipulating our attention, why not all reach is equal, and, ultimately, what we can do about it.00:00 - Intro00:49 - Karen’s new book01:42 - The history of attention03:20 - The case for attention04:17 - The difference between active and passive attention09:37 - Linking attention to memory11:30 - Linking attention to advertising outcomes14:12 - The concept of attention elasticity15:17 - How platforms are manipulating our attention17:51 - How to measure attention20:10 - Seen vs served25:22 - How is the industry progressing?27:21 - Is there a new metric we can use in place of CPM?29:10 - How to buy media based on attention31:25 - Karen’s new course32:31 - How is Amplified Intelligence going
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From Shark Tank to Super Bowl - the story of America's fastest growing beverage (Poppi) with Allison Ellsworth
In this episode I'm joined by Allison Ellsworth, founder of the fastest growing beverage brand in the US, Poppi.Poppi was started as Mother Beverage in 2018 (a nod to the raw, unfiltered apple cider vinegar used in the drink) but was rebranded after featuring on Shark Tank in the same year. Now, it's one of the biggest soda brands in the US, outselling Coke and Pepsi on Amazon. I speak to Allison about the journey of creating the brand, how influential TikTok was for their growth, their merch strategy and how they ended up buying a Super Bowl ad. This is a fascinating account of how a challenger brand can disrupt an industry in such a small period of time.Timestamps00:00 - Intro02:08 - Allison’s experience on Shark Tank05:56 - Funding and rebrand of Poppi10:36 - Launching the brand during COVID11:06 - Outselling Coke and Pepsi on Amazon12:33 - How big is the impact of Shark Tank13:45 - Growing the brand on social media17:02 - The influencer and social first marketing strategy19:45 - How Poppi’s marketing popup worked22:05 - Why Poppi invested in merch and launching in Target24:36 - Choosing which flavours to launch with Poppi28:04 - Approach to retail and growth29:27 - Breaking into a competitive market30:29 - Poppi’s Super Bowl campaign35:30 - The journey from 2 to 200 employees40:18 - How Allison hires at Poppi42:05 - The hardest part of the journey at Poppi44:07 - How Allison would start a new startup today
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Mr Bates vs The Post Office - the real story behind the drama with Patrick Spence
Mr Bates vs The Post Office is a the most watched drama on ITV of all time. It's the extraordinary story of the greatest miscarriage of justice in British legal history, where hundreds of innocent sub-postmasters and postmistresses were wrongly accused of theft, fraud and false accounting due to a defective IT system. I speak to the producer of the show, Patrick Spence, to get a behind the scenes look at the drama, how it was discovered, how it was made and why the country rallied around Mr Bates.Timestamps00:00 - Intro01:09 - The story of Mr Bates05:33 - Having the film commissioned by ITV08:59 - How true was the drama12:04 - How big was the cover up at the Post Office14:12 - How did this scandal happen17:21 - Why some people pleaded guilty19:36 - How has the show impacted real people22:08 - Why no one has received compensation yet24:46 - What awards has the show won26:24 - The reaction from Fujitsu and the Post Office31:53 - How has the drama translated globally?
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The power of personalisation and how to deliver at scale - Mark Abraham, BCG
Mark Abraham leads Boston Consulting Group’s Marketing, Sales & Pricing practice in North America. He also launched and leads the firm’s personalization capability. He has built some of the firm’s largest ventures and AI platforms, including Fabriq Personalization AI by BCG X, a personalization platform that accelerates personalization.Mark coauthored the book Personalized: Customer Strategy in the Age of AI, which helps executives learn how to put personalization at the center of their strategy, accelerate growth, and capture their share of the $2 trillion personalization prize.Timestamps00:00 - Intro00:49 - Why 2025 is the year of personalisation at scale01:38 - When personalisation goes wrong06:04 - Consumer data on our openness to personalisation07:48 - The $2 trillion opportunity10:08 - Who is doing personalisation well14:27 - The competitive advantage of speed and scale15:50 - How AI is driving personalisation forward24:15 - The 5 areas to build the framework for personalisation26:49 - How do you get information about your customer31:53 - What is the most useful intelligence to gather37:43 - How to make mass campaigns more targeted42:36 - Some of the barriers to personalisation50:19 - Why companies need to embrace AI53:25 - Parting advice to people on implementing personalisation
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How not to plan: what matters most in 2025 - Les Binet and Sarah Carter
It's our annual tradition to bring Sarah Carter and Les Binet, authors of How Not To Plan, onto the podcast to discuss the hot topics of the year and what marketers need to know in 2025. We've broken this episode into 8 key discussion points, including why consistent advertising is so effective, why the era of purpose is over and another year of the advertising industry needing to remember they are not the customer.00:00:00 - Intro00:00:55 - Reflecting on the agency’s year00:05:25 - Point 1: You are not the customer00:19:51 - Point 2: Ignore Price at your peril00:26:13 - Point 3: Consistency but not a lack of creativity00:42:08 - Point 4: Never forget the eyeballs00:50:48 - Point 5: Emotions aren’t just about making people cry00:55:08 - Point 6: Is the era of purpose over?01:00:38 - Point 7: Don’t just be in culture, stay in culture01:03:48 - Point 8: Don’t forget the power of Out of Home
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